Where does the title of your newest album come from?
SLIM0: “Forgiving” is unique because it doesn’t just respond to what caused the hurt—it creates something new and free from the past, releasing both the person who forgives and the one who is forgiven. By setting a scene for accessing the emotional nuances of forgiveness, FORGIVENESS embodies both theatrical points of view, fragmented characters telling half stories by singing their truths. It definitely is one of the most beautiful words we know—it’s also a wish. It’s super harsh, and yeah it’s a commitment. But it also gives us the ick, there are things that are totally unforgivable, the horrors that are going on in and around Palestine. The rise of fascism in the West, Elon Musk heiling, at least four more years with Donald Trump. To us: Unforgivable, but that makes it even more important to try and forgive the things that are possibly forgivable, smaller scale things. Be brave and make commitments, so we can stay together and be strong in the resistance.
What is your usual songwriting dynamic? Is it in any way affected by the band’s intrafamilial dynamic?
Ha ha ha, that intrafamilial dynamic! I think exactly because of that dynamic, songwriting is such a magical thing for us, we have a lot of trust and know each other so well, so it comes very naturally. Often one of us brings an idea, could be lyrics, a melody, could be a riff, could be Mija or a beat—and then the others add on, like a layered jam session. It quite often happens that we forget how the song was made. Now, on FORGIVENESS, we worked with producer Aase Nielsen, and that process has been quite different. She gave us individual homework assignments, chopped up live recordings and then we made songs and recorded additional stuff—this was a very fruitful process for all of us!
Can you tell us a little about the five "missing tracks" from FORGIVENESS that are now on Nina?
To create an album, you have to leave out some tracks, ‘cause of time limit and ‘cause of the album as an experience, even though they are close to your heart—every song stands in relation to one another on an album and affects one another and these five songs are leftovers from dinner, but that doesn’t mean you can’t eat them the day after. It’s also great to be able to stretch out—or prolong the excitement of releasing new music together—and not closing the work fully but allowing it to open and close again, with a sloppy kiss. <3
You interpolate Dido on “I Have But One Heart.” What prompted that choice?
Oliver Laumann—Mija’s partner, Lena’s brother-in-law and Simin’s good friend (who is also a great musician) came up with this idea for us to mash up Dido and Earth. This happened while we were printing merch—we were listening to Earth; later on, Dido came on the radio, Oliver started humming Dido’s melody on top of the repetitive riff from Earth’s track called “Introduction.” We tried it out and loved it immediately. There is definitely something about us being millennials, having grown up with Dido as a prominent figure on MTV, with her silky melancholic voice (and great fringy hair). It’s romantic, and after playing it a few times we knew that it fitted into FORGIVENESS—her lyrics are so doom, so slacker.
The video for “TRENCHES” is really good. How did that come about?
Lena wrote the script and directed the video, as we wanted to create a visual narrative expression for “TRENCHES.” During the process, it became clear that the song speaks to the experience of saying goodbye to grandparents who live far away—something that resonates deeply with all of us. This shared longing and emotional connection became the foundation of the music video.
Lena worked in close collaboration with cinematographer Stephanie Stål Axelgård, production designer Camilla Silvana Navarro Howalt, and animator Oliver Laumann, all of whom played a crucial role in shaping its visual identity. The project was further elevated by the incredible performances of Zlatko Burić and Dragana Milutinović as the grandparents. Having such amazing actors was a privilege, as they instinctively understood the emotional core Lena sought to bring to life.
Lena wanted with the music video to encapsulate a memory of belonging, longing, and saying goodbye. The story is rooted in memories that all of us band members share. "TRENCHES" has this raw, outwardly directed anger and grief that reflects a feeling all of us band members remember as a child, having family in different countries. The song’s intense, repetitive nature mirrors the cyclical ritual of goodbyes to someone and somewhere you love deeply. We watch those we care about grow older, and each farewell becomes heavier, more significant. This video is about those farewells—the ones that feel endless, yet fleeting; those moments when you realize that every goodbye carries the weight of time passing. This is Lena’s way of bottling up that feeling and a reminder of the nostalgia and bittersweetness of longing.