Though she works in a variety of media, Emma Kohlmann is probably best known for art made using watercolor and ink. Kohlmann recently released a new book with Anthology Editions. Fittingly, it’s called Watercolors. The book is over 300 pages of flowing, gestural images that cohere into a defined world; it also comes with a trilogy of essays by Audrey Wollen, LD Deutsch, and Mark Iosifescu. I gave Kohlmann a call to talk about the new book, and of course, what kind of stuff she has been listening to in the studio.
I read that you're a big fan of Antiques Roadshow. Is that something you have playing when you're working?
Emma Kohlmann: No, it's usually what I watch when I get home. I watch the BBC version because it's crazy, just the shit that they find in the ground in the UK, like a 2000-year-old ring. It's fascinating. It also makes me want to find treasure or find something in my backyard, even though there's nothing there. In the studio, I'll listen to audiobooks or tapes. I'm really into having tapes in the studio.
So, you have a lot of tapes?
Yeah, I actually just found one of those cassette holders at the thrift store that could fit all of my tapes, which is the first time ever that has happened, because I've been carrying these tapes around for 10 years, just in piles. So I reorganized it all and my sister bought me a vintage Sony boombox.
What books have you been listening to?
Well, I just finished a book that was recommended to me. It's a memoir by Viva superstar’s daughter, Don't Call Me Home. It chronicles her life growing up with her mother, who was a muse of Andy Warhol, who was just this extreme, eccentric, amazing person. She lived in the Chelsea Hotel and moved around a lot, but it’s a cute, kind of romantic New York memoir.
Do you have that actually on cassette tape?
No, no, no, not on cassette tape, no way. On audiobook.
I just had the idea that a small press publisher could do a new audiobook on actual cassette tape. Has that been done?
I don't think so, but you should do that.
It’s a funny idea because you would need like six tapes. Maybe it would be better for a 30 page poetry collection.
If it was a bunch of different poets, it could be like each person reads their own poem, instead of doing a reading.
You run a press, so maybe you could do this at some point.
My sister would be so down. She also loves tapes. But I also love CDs. I got really into making mix CDs during the pandemic, and my car had a six-disc CD changer, and it was just the best. Get tired of one CD, go to the next, and you memorize your own mixes, the songs that come after one another.
You go to thrift stores a lot. It seems like a real buyer’s market for CDs?
Yes, it is. People don't want CDs because they're still kind of shitty. If you buy them at the thrift store, there's the danger of them skipping, but they're so cheap. But I wanted to get a wide array and have my whole collection and not use Spotify ever. Because I prefer having the physical thing.
Speaking of physical media. Your new book took three years to make?
I used to draw or paint every day and I would make these stacks of watercolors and go to the library in town and scan all the images. And so I had been doing that for 10 years and I just amassed so many images. I’m organized, but not that organized. So things were all over the place in my Dropbox. It was just sorting—they had to sort through all this stuff and it was a lot to even start compiling or making something that made sense in book form.
How many pages is it?
It's like 350.
That's a lot of images.
Yeah. And there's three essays and there are full page images. So there are a lot of images, but it’s not even a third of what I have, which is cool, because I also think it would be an incredibly boring book after a while.
Anthology, from what I've seen, they do a thorough job.
Yeah, they're very thorough. It took maybe two months to color match. They work with this printer in China that is amazing. The wet proof took so long to get to me, because they were vetoing every single one because it didn't match correctly. So, the final proof of the color matching was actually perfect. The colors in the book match almost identically to the real watercolors, which is crazy, because even when I've printed my own thing, it's really hard to do that.
I read that your studio space is in a former paper mill?
It's a massive building. There are a ton of old derelict factories where I live and they converted some of them into studio spaces. But this one's been around since, I think, the nineties. It’s like five blocks long. It's huge. The top floor, they converted into condos. But I've been here for so long. I've been in so many different buildings now that this is kind of the nicest one, but the most expensive because they keep it up.
This is that new school New England warehouse?
Yeah. But it's interesting, though, because I think I was one of the first ones in the area to make it into a workspace. I used to actually rent a space that they didn't keep up as nicely, but it was so cheap and still beautiful, with massive windows. And it was significantly less because they just didn't do anything to it. Which is also kind of nice.
It’s hard to have it all.
I think it's cool because there's so many old factory buildings like this in New England, and it’s a thing that people do. They buy them and make them into art studios.
So what's your breakdown of spoken word to music when you’re in the studio?
It's 50-50. It really depends on the day. Like, today it's snowing and I kind of want to listen to some jazz or something. I don't know.
Some lo-fi chill hip-hop beats to study to?
Yeah, or something romantic, like Chet Baker. Which is kind of corny, but I don't know. And also, it feels like sometimes I tune out when I listen to spoken word stuff, which is so funny to say. I kind of tune it out in a way more than I do with music.
I've talked to painters before who say that they watch movies while they paint, and because they barely pay attention, they have to watch the same one like four times.
I would have a really hard time. I don't have internet in my studio. I try not to be on my phone, which is really hard. Nowadays, I like having minimal distractions, but I can understand watching a movie. I'll have to go back a lot of the time—like, in this past book, it took me a while to get to the end because I kept on forgetting to listen to it.
When your work is in the foreground, the consumption's gonna be sort of scattered in an interesting way.
There are problems when you're painting. Something happens and you're having a hard time. And then, I almost feel like everything disappears. I have to have no music or no stories. I forget about everything around me.
Yeah, there’s that and then there's the grunt work time where you need some audio to keep going.
Yeah, it's like cheering you on or helping you. Which is the best. That's the most delicious time to listen to something.